In the wake of the recent passing of Carol Grimaldi, we're replaying this classic Sporkful interview with a pair of New York pizza legends.

81-year-old Patsy Grimaldi may be the last person making pizza today who trained under someone who trained at Lombardi's--the first pizzeria in American history. But as this interview shows, his wife was much more than the woman behind the man.

Dan and the Grimaldi's discuss slice folding technique, the art and science of using a coal oven, what she taught him about pizza, and several trends Patsy deems "ridiculous."

The Grimaldi's also reveal that they both eat pizza with a knife and fork, at least for the first half of the slice, while it's still very hot. (This is the traditional Neapolitan way, notwithstanding the outcry we heard when New York Mayor Bill de Blasio used utensils to eat his slice.)

Read more about Patsy Grimaldi's history and his new pizzeria on Grub Street.