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When you're in a wheelchair, dining out is so much more complicated.
"I call ahead...and I ask specific questions," says David Friedman (below in mid-meal), who reviews restaurants for both their food and wheelchair accessibility on The Disabled Foodie. "If it comes down to it, I ask: 'Are the doorways 34 inches or wider?'"
Our friend and fellow WNYC host, John Hockenberry of the national news show The Takeaway, also calls ahead before going out to eat.
"You really do have to [ask] things like, 'How many steps are there to get into your restaurant?'" John says.
This week on The Sporkful, we learn about navigating a restaurant in a wheelchair -- from ramps (or the lack of them, as the annotated photo from "The Disabled Foodie" illustrates):
....to less obvious challenges, like tables that are too short to slide a wheelchair underneath and bathroom faucet handles that you can't reach from a wheelchair.
John's a paraplegic and he's used a wheelchair to get around for nearly four decades. He says that restaurants are better equipped for disabled diners than they were in the past.
At The Good Fork in Brooklyn, where we taped part of this episode, John befriended the owners and convinced them to buy a fold-up wheelchair ramp for him to use:
But ultimately, John says, the way a restaurant's staff treats him is more important than a ramp or the height of his table.
"My favorite place in the world is Il Mulino in Manhattan. It’s not accessible -- I wish they’d get a ramp," he says. "But the way they treat me totally compensates for it. When I’m in the restaurant, I could be Frank Sinatra."
David agrees, citing a recent experience at a restaurant in New York:
"They didn’t know what to do with me, they treated me like I was from Mars," he says. "They didn’t even offer to help because they were so confused. And all it would’ve taken was: 'What can we do? How can we help?"
It's a feeling our third guest knows all too well.
YouTube star Zach Anner (below in mid-slurp), who has cerebral palsy, has spent his whole life in a wheelchair. If you watch Zach's YouTube shows, you know he loves food -- especially candy corn and milkshakes:
When Dan interviewed him live at South by Southwest last year, Zach said people make a lot incorrect assumptions about him when he goes out for a meal.
"If I fumble with my wallet too long in a coffee shop, somebody will be like, 'Do you need money?'" he says. "I’m like -- no, I just can’t reach the money that I have."
Sometimes waiters in restaurants assume that he has a mental disability and can't order for himself.
"They’ll say [to my dining companion], 'What would he like?'" Zach says. "That’s the most common misconception -- that a physical disability is indicative of a mental one. And the way I passionately talk about milkshakes doesn’t help!"
Listen in to the full episode to hear John and David debate the limits of restaurant accessibility with Dan. And Zach tells Dan about the time a well-meaning Girl Scout troop tried to force their cookies on him.
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This is a rebroadcast of an earlier episode.
Interstitial music in this episode by Black Label Music:
- "When You're Away" by Kenneth J. Brahmstedt
- "Fresh Air" by Erick Anderson
Photos by Anne Noyes Saini and courtesy of David Friedman and Zach Anner