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**Our interview with Sammy Hagar contains some bad words.

Jacques Pépin was a celebrity chef before anyone had ever heard of such a thing, and Sammy Hagar is a bona fide rock star -- he used to front Van Halen.

But Sammy says before he learned to rock, he learned to cook.

And Chef Jacques knows a thing or two about how to party:

"This spring I bought 70 cases of wine," he tells Dan in this week's episode, "We do drink a lot of wine."

Today on The Sporkful, Sammy and Dan talk about the art of making mozzarella and what he learned about food from his Sicilian immigrant grandparents.

When Dan handed him a ball of freshly pulled mozzarella in their interview, he didn't miss a beat:

"I just want to take some toasted French bread and some tomatoes and a little bit of basil and salt and pepper and olive oil -- and I'm good to go."

Then Jacques and Dan drink beer out of paper cups and talk about his arrival in America and his first encounter with an Oreo cookie.

"After half a century in America, I've absorbed so many different types of cuisine," he says. "I never really tried to be French and, by the same token, I never really tried not to be French."

Both Sammy and Jacques have written cookbooks. But the similarities between these two passionate eaters go A LOT deeper. Listen in to the full episode and you'll find that neither of these guys is who you think they are.

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This is a rebroadcast of an earlier episode. 

Photos: Anne Noyes Saini, Kevin Berne, courtesy of Sammy Hagar, courtesy of Jacques Pépin