Turns out neither of these guys is who you think they are.
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With help from New York Times food correspondent Kim Severson and author Mark Kurlansky.
In cooking and eating, sound is the forgotten sense. But you can tell whether you're cutting scallions correctly, or how good your chocolate is, by the sounds they make.
The founder of Milk Street hates celebrations and says pleasure's annoying. He tells us why he thinks cooking isn't about either, and how he got this way.
