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Other People’s Food Pt. 5: Your Mom’s Crappy Casserole

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Mar 31, 2016

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Growing up in an Indian family in Queens in the '80s, Ashok Kondabolu remembers kids at school telling him he smelled like curry and teasing him about eating monkey brains.

Decades later, Ashok still feels protective of the South Indian food (below) he grew up with:

"Now the dominant culture is going to take my culture's food and repackage it and 'elevate' it?" he says. "Why don't you elevate your mom's crappy casseroles and your tuna fish sandwiches? It offends me."


This week on The Sporkful, our special series on food, culture, and race concludes with the second half of our recent live show -- featuring artist Ashok Kondabolu (below, center) and comedian Michelle Buteau (below, right).

Ashok's work with arts and radio collective Chillin Island (and formerly with hip-hop group Das Racist) often grapples with culture and identity. And race is a common theme in Michelle's stand-up comedy.

NYPR Hodgepod: Sporkful LIVE w/ Rosie Perez

Their conversation with Dan builds on many of the questions raised in earlier episodes of this series:

  • How do stereotypes about food and people affect what we eat?
  • What's lost and gained when immigrant cuisines assimilate into American culture?
  • When is it OK to cook other people's food?


Like Ashok, Michelle grew up in an immigrant family -- her mom is from Jamaica, and her dad is from Haiti.

She loves the Caribbean cooking she grew up eating: ackee and saltfishstew peas, and callaloo (above). But she says that doesn't make her an expert in those foods.

"Even if you're from the place, I don't even know if you're an expert [about the food]," she says. "When recipes are handed down from generation to generation, it's still your interpretation."

Now that she's married, Michelle is sharing her Caribbean food heritage with her white, European husband:

"[He] can cook Jamaican food better than me!" she admits.

NYPR Hodgepod: Sporkful LIVE w/ Rosie Perez

Where do Michelle and Ashok draw the line between culinary cross-pollination and cultural appropriation? Listen in to the full episode to find out.

And don't miss our game, "Is This Food Racist?" -- where Dan asks Michelle and Ashok if foods from American pop culture are offensive.

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Interstitial music in this episode by Black Label Music:

- "Can You Dig It" by Cullen Fitzpatrick

- "Dreamin'" by Erick Anderson

- "Legend" by Erick Anderson

Photos: Matthew Septimus; FlickrCC/Meal Makeover Moms; FlickrCC/Go Dakshin; FlickrCC/Jenni Konrad

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