In the final episode of Slate's Table to Farm podcast series, Dan and co-host Laura Anderson learn about the dairy industry when they speak with author Kirk Kardashian, then find out exactly how cheese is made from Elizabeth Chubbuck of Murray's Cheese. (Spoiler Alert: It involves science.)

Elizabeth also offers a quick tip for how to tell whether a cheese will melt well.

Each guest reveals their cheese guilty pleasure, then Laura cooks up two quesos, one a Velveeta-based concoction from her childhood, the other a queso blanco made from scratch. Finally, Laura and Dan reflect on what they've learned over the course of the Table to Farm series.

Listen to more episodes of Table to Farm, find the queso recipes on Slate, and check out the new cookbook Ultimate Nachos: From Nachos and Guacamole to Salsas and Cocktails, source of the queso blanco recipe featured in this podcast.

Also, if you're in the New York area, get tickets for Guactacular 2013, at the Bell House in Brooklyn on Cinco de Mayo, where Laura is entered in a guacamole competition and Dan will be taping The Sporkful in front of a live audience. Hope to see you there!